Divergent States
The Divergent States Podcast explores the intersection of psychedelics, science, and culture without the mysticism. Hosted by 3L1T3, founder of r/psychonaut with over 500,000 members, and co-hosted by Bryan, a USMC veteran and advocate for psychedelic-assisted healing, the show cuts through hype to get at what’s real.
From personal stories to peer-reviewed science, we investigate how psychedelics shape mental health, creativity, and society, while pushing back on dogma and pseudoscience. Past guests include Hamilton Morris, Dr. Rick Strassman, Dr. Rick Doblin, and more.
If you're tired of breathless mysticism and want data-driven, curiosity-fueled conversations: you're in the right state.
Too many treat psychedelics like religion. We treat them like science.
Episodes
12 episodes
Tom Feegel: Can Psychedelics Heal the Opioid Crisis?
In this powerful new episode of Divergent States, your hosts 3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with Tom Feegel—CEO and Co-Founder of Beond, a pioneering Ibogaine clinic based in Mexico, to discuss the unfiltered realities of healing, addiction recovery,...
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Season 1
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Episode 11
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59:00
Seven Principles of the Psychonaut w/ Valerie Beltran
What does it mean to be a responsible psychonaut?In this episode of Divergent States, we sit down again with Valerie Beltran, licensed therapist, harm reduction expert, and educator with the Zendo Project, to unpac...
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Season 1
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Episode 10
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49:02
Alli Schaper: Microdosing, Mushrooms, and Policy Reform
In this episode of Divergent States, we sit down with Alli Schaper, CEO of Supermush and co-founder of the Microdosing Collective, to explore the evolving world of functional and psychedelic mushrooms. Alli shares ...
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Season 1
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Episode 9
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1:04:17
JR Sawyers: A Filmmaker's Journey into Psychedelics - A Trip Elsewhere
In this deeply personal and eye-opening episode, we sit down with filmmaker JR Sawyers, the mind behind the indie psychedelic drama A Trip Elsewhere. What begins as a conversation about a film turns into a powerful exploration o...
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Season 1
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Episode 8
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1:06:49
Valerie Beltran & Chelsea Rose Pires: Holding Space with the Zendo Project
In this powerful episode of Divergent States, we’re joined by Valerie Beltran and Chelsea Rose-Pires of the Zendo Project- an organization redefining harm reduction and compassionate care at festivals, events, and beyond....
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Season 1
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Episode 7
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1:06:45
DylAlien on Psychedelic Music Culture: Trance Rituals, Cosmic Giggles & Prankster Wisdom
In this episode of Divergent States, we talk with Dylalien: psychedelic DJ, producer, schoolteacher, and longtime organizer of Goa Gil’s legendary all-night, open-air ritual dance parties. You’ve heard his music on this podcast,...
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Season 1
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Episode 6
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1:01:41
Wendy Tucker on the Shulgin Legacy & the Future of the Farm: Preserving Psychedelic History
In this profound episode of Divergent States, we welcome Wendy Tucker, daughter of Ann Shulgin and stepdaughter of the legendary Sasha Shulgin, the "Godfather of Ecstasy." Wendy shares intimate stories of growing up at th...
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Season 1
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Episode 5
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47:23
Rick Doblin Unplugged: Psychedelics, Parenting, Trauma & the Future of MAPS
In this episode of Divergent States, we sit down with Rick Doblin, founder of MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies), for a raw, unscripted conversation on the future of psychedelic therapy, the dang...
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Season 1
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Episode 4
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1:05:30
Joshua White - Fireside Project Psychedelic Support Line
In this episode of Divergent States, we talk with Joshua White, founder and executive director of the Fireside Project, a nonprofit creating a revolutionary model of psychedelic support through free, real-time emotional c...
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Season 1
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Episode 3
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43:49
Hamilton Morris: r/Psychonaut and the DEA
In this holiday episode of Divergent States, Hamilton Morris joins us for a raw and timely conversation on the unexpected role Reddit, Erowid, and online trip reports are now playing in DEA hearings. What happens when harm-reduction po...
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Season 1
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Episode 2
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