Divergent States
Divergent States cuts through psychedelic hype with grounded, skeptical conversations. Hosted by 3L1T3, founder of r/Psychonaut, the world’s largest forum dedicated to the safe use of psychedelics, and co-hosted by Bryan, a USMC veteran and advocate for psychedelic healing, the show examines the science, culture, and contradictions shaping the psychedelic landscape.
No mysticism. No marketing. Just data, lived experience, and hard questions.
We explore how psychedelics impact mental health, creativity, and society, from clinical trials to cultural fault lines. Nothing’s off-limits. Everything is up for scrutiny.
Guests include Rick Doblin, Reggie Watts, Leonard Pickard, Anne Wagner, Hamilton Morris, and Rick Strassman.
If you're looking for reverence, this isn't your show.
If you're after critical, intelligent dialogue about what psychedelics actually do, welcome to Divergent States.
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Divergent States
Compass Pathways: Independent Media Talks Psychedelic Medicine
In this episode of Divergent States, we sit down with Kabir Nath, CEO of Compass Pathways, and Dr. Steve Levine, Chief Patient Officer, to talk about the future of psychedelic medicine. From FDA approval and insurance coverage to patient access, cultural safety, and patents, we dig into whether Compass is truly disrupting the pharma model or just reinventing it.
We also share a major community update: the official Divergent States Discord is now open to all of r/Psychonaut. Built by Brady and the mod team, the server is a space for harm reduction, trip reports, deep dives, and authentic connection across the psychedelic movement.
As always, this conversation is about asking the real questions without corporate PR filters. What Compass shared — and what they left unsaid — reveals as much about the future of psilocybin therapy as the answers themselves.
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Key Points
- FDA approval: path to affordability or illusion of access?
- COM360 psilocybin therapy: synthetic model, patient journey, and therapy debate
- Access & equity: insurance hurdles, pricing models, and patient foundations
- Cultural safety: trauma-informed design, marginalized populations, indigenous roots
- Patents & Pharma tension: innovation vs. corporate control in psychedelic medicine
- Community news: Divergent States Discord officially launches for r/Psychonaut
Chapters
00:00 – Intro: Setting the frame for Compass Pathways
01:30 – Community Update: Divergent States Discord opens for r/Psychonaut
09:30 – Guest Intros: Kabir Nath & Dr. Steve Levine of Compass Pathways
11:20 – Kabir on moving from pharma to psychedelics
12:30 – Steve on ketamine clinics & new models of care
14:15 – What “success” looks like for patients
16:00 – COM360 psilocybin therapy: synthetic vs. natural & the role of therapy
17:30 – How Compass plans to deliver psilocybin in different care settings
18:40 – Patient hopes, fears, and the path to access
20:00 – FDA approval, insurance, and affordability
21:00 – Cultural safety, trauma-informed design, and community input
21:45 – Indigenous engagement & staying “in their lane”
24:15 – The next 5–10 years of psychedelic treatment
26:10 – What could derail psychedelic medicine’s promise
28:10 – Compass’ place in the broader psychedelic ecosystem
29:50 – Outro: Independent media reflections & listener call to action
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