Divergent States
Divergent States cuts through psychedelic hype with grounded, curious conversations about what these substances actually do.
Hosted by 3L1T3, founder of r/Psychonaut, the world’s largest psychedelic harm-reduction community, and co-hosted by Bryan, a USMC veteran and advocate for psychedelic healing, the show brings together lived experience, science, and culture without losing its sense of humor.
This isn’t a spiritual podcast.
This isn’t a marketing platform.
No mysticism. No sales pitch. Just real conversations, harm reduction, and honest questions.
We explore how psychedelics shape mental health, creativity, and society, from underground use and peer-support communities to clinical trials, therapy rooms, and shifting public attitudes. Some episodes get serious. Some get weird. All of them are grounded in respect for the people actually taking these substances and living with the outcomes.
Guests include Rick Doblin, Reggie Watts, Leonard Pickard, Anne Wagner, Hamilton Morris, and Rick Strassman.
Divergent States is built on the same principles that made r/Psychonaut work at scale: curiosity without gullibility, openness without losing your footing, and safety without killing the joy.
If you’re looking for guru worship, this isn’t your show.
If you’re looking for thoughtful, funny, and grounded conversations about psychedelics and the lives they touch, welcome to Divergent States.
New episodes every two weeks.
Episodes
Inside Season Two: Integration, Not Escapism
Dennis McKenna: Nature, AI, and the Collapse of Separation
Betty Aldworth: MAPS, MDMA, and the Battle Over Psychedelic Medicine
David Bronner on Corporate Psychedelics, Mysticism, and the All-One Future
Joe Moore on the Future of Psychedelics: From Underground to Mainstream
Reggie Watts on Psychedelics, Creativity, and Consciousness
How Politics Could Derail Psychedelic Medicine — Again
Compass Pathways: Independent Media Talks Psychedelic Medicine
Paul F. Austin: Mastering Microdosing and Unlocking Human Potential
Amber Capone: The Psychedelics Saving Veterans from PTSD
William Leonard Pickard - The Acid King, the Rose, and the Return
Dr. Anne Wagner: Can MDMA Fix a Broken Marriage?
Kyrsten Sinema: Inside the Psychedelic Fast-Track for Veterans
Kevin Cranford – Behind the Curtain at MAPS: Culture, Communication & Controversy
Tom Feegel: Can Psychedelics Heal the Opioid Crisis?
Seven Principles of the Psychonaut w/ Valerie Beltran
Alli Schaper: Microdosing, Mushrooms, and Policy Reform
JR Sawyers – The First Film About Set, Setting, and Psychedelic Therapy? A Trip Elsewhere
Valerie Beltran & Chelsea Rose – What Happens When a Trip Goes Sideways
DylAlien on Psychedelic Music Culture: Trance Rituals, Cosmic Giggles & Prankster Wisdom
Wendy Tucker on the Shulgin Legacy & the Future of the Farm: Preserving Psychedelic History
Rick Doblin Unplugged: Psychedelics, Parenting, Trauma & the Future of MAPS
Joshua White – Holding the Line: Fireside, Crisis Support & Conscious Integration
Hamilton Morris: r/Psychonaut and the DEA